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dr|z3d
you were right about fines for using twitter, uop23ip, I stand corrected. posting is probably problematic, reading, not so much.
orignal
Musk is not I2P friendly
orignal
and there is no such thing for twitter as mtproxy
StormyCloud
Fun fact all logs on our server are deleted every 15mins so nothing to give out
snex
So u say
StormyCloud
More than welcome ask dr to confirm
dr|z3d
why should we be supporting twitter, orignal?
dr|z3d
Musk will take down BBC links at the behest of the Indian govt, but won't take down Bolsanaro disinformation at the behest of a Brazilian judge.
dr|z3d
Nothing to support there, unless you want to support the idiocy of an oligarch.
dr|z3d
It's unfortunate that Brazilian users are the ultimately losers. I guess we can promote I2P with them in mind, but the twitter battle isn't ours, this much I know.
dr|z3d
Durov doesn't exactly come up smelling of roses, either.
dr|z3d
He allowed CSAM to flourish on his platform, and the rest of it, and mostly refused to cooperate with authorities, or, failing that, have some robust filtering in play to remove objectionable content.
dr|z3d
His arrest was another exercise in stupidity and arrogance in equal measure.
dr|z3d
He couldn't even claim he didn't have visibility on the content either. Encryption opt-in for private chats, not available for public forums. So no get-out clause there, either.
uop23ip
a critical state stupidity is easy archievable by govs when they fuse i2p/tor/vpn with conspiracy to break a law. Then i can't route transit traffic anymore and have to go into hidden mode :| . why isn't zuckerberg in jail with his cp warning and proceed sign in facebook?
dr|z3d
vpns aren't banned in Brazil yet, unlikely they will be.
uop23ip
super-elon could easily circumvent any gov with his starlink fleet and monero :) And people say he was stupid with his rocket stuff. Conqueror of mars, conqueror of earth!
dr|z3d
where's not_bob_afk?
dr|z3d
not_bob_afk: DO NOT THE LEMON!
dr|z3d
*** laughs. ***
RN
yoda chuckle too did that comment make
uop23ip
is i2p/tor similar/identical to a vpn by any meaningful courts?
dr|z3d
!
dr|z3d
RN: DO NOT LEMON!
snex
N
snex
No
snex
There’s nobody to subpoena with tor and i2p
dr|z3d
exit operator, or outproxy operator. waste of time, doesn't stop some trying.
RN
lemon free zone at my place
dr|z3d
or they might just kick down your door and arrest you if you're stupid enough to run an exit on your home network.
snex
Lemon party at RN’s?
uop23ip
"Any person or company that TRIES to circumvent the ban using a VPN will be fined 9k PER DAY" lol
snex
I set my proton vpn to Brazil
uop23ip
just thinking of doing it will be 1k per day
snex
Put it on my tab
uop23ip
something 100 bucks and per minute would be more fair, i think
dr|z3d
there is no fair when you're attempting to fine your population for visiting a proscribed site.
uop23ip
that's called freedom tax
uop23ip
per minute ofc, bc people would get crazy with too much freedom lol
uop23ip
and the rich have all the freedom again, bc they can pay the fine. sad world
snex
Name a society where the rich cannot purchase extra freedom
storm88
hi all :)
storm88
hi dr|z3d :)
storm88
hi RN :)
orignal
we shouldn't support twitter
orignal
we should be against that Brazilian monkey
dr|z3d
oh, baldie.
dr|z3d
yeah, I agree there, judicial overreach. not the first time, apparently.
orignal
remember the story with Telegram in Russia in 2018
orignal
and I run public mtproxy through i2p since that
orignal
and futhermore people use it a lot
orignal
ofc when I ask Java-I2P to join this fight for freedom of speech, got another "fuck off"
orignal
FYI, telegram.i2p
dr|z3d
behave, orignal
dr|z3d
@geti2p is unmaintained.
dr|z3d
zzz already retweeted a post re durov.
dr|z3d
you want fries with that?
dr|z3d
nothing stopping you from tweeting. be the change you want to see in the world. :)
orignal
as I said I don't want retweet
orignal
I want to see i2p poisition
orignal
again I don't use tweeter
orignal
I use telegram
orignal
but Java-I2P mistly uses twiter
uop23ip
There is no more freedom as in i2p. Telegram had big (foreign hacked) leak published. It is now available as i2ptorrent. That's a statement in itself. Thanks to all for providing this protection. Imo you can be proud on yourself. There are not many of yours and the importance of this tech has been risen enormously, not just lately. Stay safe (and controlled invisible if possible). :D
T3s|4
uop23ip: indeed, circumventing the ill intentioned has been our raison d'être for decades :)