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RN excited to see the new graphs and map when they come out. Thanks y'all for the work you put into I2P.
dr|z3d if you're on the latest +, RN, /netdbmap
dr|z3d linked on /netdb nav.
dr|z3d map will auto-update as your netdb country count changes, hover over a country for more info.
dr|z3d are you using int values for the path coords in your puker, zzz?
dr|z3d or, a slightly different question, is your puker outputting int values for the graph paths?
dr|z3d if you're using Tor browser or NoScript, mesh, and/or you have svgs disabled, you won't see the graphs. Fix your browser.
dr|z3d With svgs disabled, you might as well be running lynx.
zzz svg graphs work fine with noscript bc they're <img> not <object>
zzz yes ints ofc
dr|z3d re svg, not always true
dr|z3d they might work with noscript, but they don't always place nice with tor browser and friends.
zzz eyedeekay, will svg <img> work in i2p browser?
dr|z3d maybe be old, but you get the flava: "The Tor Browser now disables SVG images by setting svg.disabled to true. I verified this to be the case when I checked the status of svg.disabled. It showed up as true for safest security level and false for any other security level."
dr|z3d depends on your chosen security level, if that's still a thing in Tor browser, as to whether svgs display afaik.
dr|z3d I only mentioned blocking because that's the only "issue" I could think of that mesh referenced in the abstract.
dr|z3d as for int for coords, does rrd4j ever use floats when it comes to plotting graphs? maybe we're a special case, but I've never seen any.
eyedeekay Yes it will as far as I can tell, with the caveat that it might launch our profile in TBB and if TBB isn't configured to allow img tags then it's settings might get in the way, I'll test and make sure that isn't happening
eyedeekay But in Firefox, Waterfox, Librewolf, Chromium, and Brave they do
dr|z3d yeah, it's a TB security thing I think.
dr|z3d someone filed a + report a while back complaining that they couldn't see icons. they were using TB.
eyedeekay Probably on `safest` which comes with the caveat that this might break stuff
eyedeekay But arguably TBB isn't the browser you should be using for the console anyway
zzz yeah I'm not concerned about TBB
eyedeekay Then yeah img is fine
eyedeekay If it's only happening on safest, then I'm going to leave the setting intact regardless of what I find. I can't enable/disable svg per-origin or per-tab so changing it would likely defeat something the TBB users expect.
eyedeekay Google's forcing another minimum API level bump for Android apps, not a huge deal to fix and they won't start rejecting apps for another 49 days so I'll do it after the release
zzz eyedeekay, ok, but be sure to do all the usual android stuff (bug reports, crash reports, test builds) this week before the desktop release
zzz re: svg, we'll need inline <svg> or <object> for nice maps, I assume <svg> works like <object>? or not?
zzz eyedeekay, are you still doing i2p browser releases every time firefox does a release?
zzz or does the bundle not include ff itself?
darius Hi all, has tor browser ever answerd questions as to why svg are blocked? i've never seen a proper answer, some say its because urls can be embeded in svg but i dont believe this to be the reason because surely that's trivial to fix, with any basic xml parser.
darius zzz, iirc the FF bundle provides a user.js and other stuff??? i could be wrong tho
darius or thinking of something else i'd seen.
darius (user.js and other stuff that is not the full browser)
darius Blinded message
eyedeekay re: firefox releases no I don't have to, I only ship a profile not a browser, I get a browser by looking at the system, either by asking through the registry, the path, or the local directory, that way I can rely on the vendor's update mechanisms
eyedeekay re: Android that's what I'm doing today, it was in the google console
eyedeekay I do a browser release for every I2P Easy-Install Windows release
eyedeekay And also nightlies
darius :) the lack of a settings export function for browsers is a problem. one of my fave bloggers wrote about this too. anyway, i'm glad the issue of svg in TB safest mode has popped up, we need to have the svg issue properly described and solved imo.
darius its pretty weird but for largish svg has anyone thought of creating them as pdfs and putting them in iframes? ha, this is not a solution i have tested, nor is it one that I would necessarily recommend, brings me back to when I would use a php (or was it java) api to export pdfs, can barely remember that time/i was not the one who plumbed that system, but i did work on it, it could only do basic stuff and was
darius temperamental.
zzz oh yeah derp ff is not in the bundle
darius Blinded message
darius the thing i worked on years ago was NOT a proper svg to pdf system, it was like LaTex, you shove writing to it and it just pooped out documentation.
darius i will stop now
dr|z3d svgs can contain scripts and faccilate XSS which is why they're sometimes blocked.
dr|z3d *** strikes down the errant c. ***
dr|z3d not_bob_afk: to paraphrase Nelson, "I see no lemons!" -> notbob.i2p/cgi-bin/blog.cgi?page=680
dr|z3d You've given the site a glowing set of strawbs.